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rj_anderson ([personal profile] rj_anderson) wrote2006-05-30 11:07 pm
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Status Report: KNIFE

It's been a long time since I made a public post about the status of my original fantasy novel Knife, and a few of you have expressed curiosity as to how the manuscript has been faring.

First, for those who joined my LJ late in the game, a brief recap of the book's history:

- Knife completed in the spring of 1994 and promptly mailed off to Tor Books, my dream fantasy publisher.
- Editor at Tor likes it. She passes it on to a First Reader.
- First Reader writes a three-page, generally positive report on the book, noting a few weaknesses but stating that "R.J. Anderson can definitely write."
- Editor pitches the book but finds that the "money people" think it's not a good bet. She sends it back with the first reader's report enclosed, adding her best wishes for Knife's success with another publisher and an invitation to try her again with another manuscript.
- Disappointed but undaunted, I turn around and send Knife to DAW Books.
- The book receives a form rejection from DAW. I lose heart and put the book aside for a while.
- Warner Aspect holds a first novel contest. I re-edit Knife with the help of [livejournal.com profile] pharnabazus, and submit it. Warner is not interested, however, and once more I give up because I am pathetically lazy too cheap to pay for the toner and postage afraid of failure an idiot.
- Time passes. Civilizations rise and fall. Ramandu becomes visibly younger. Eventually in 2003 I rediscover the first reader's report from Tor and post it in my LJ, lamenting my own stupidity in not pursuing publication more diligently. I also post the first four chapters of the book, inviting comments from my f-list on how it reads and how it might be improved so as to catch an editor's eye.
- An acquaintance from one of the mailing lists I frequent reads the chapters and is interested. Turns out she is an editor with a prestigious young adult publishing house. Would I consider marketing the book as YA instead of adult fantasy?
- Actually, yes, I would -- especially for this publisher. After I get over my initial fit of hysterics, I gather together a crack team of beta-readers and set to work on polishing up the manuscript. In January 2004, I mail off the result.
- July 2004: Editor likes the book, but feels it's not strong enough for her to pitch yet. She sends it back with several pages' worth of observations on the book's weaknesses, unanswered questions it left in her mind, and suggestions of ways to improve it -- that is, if I'm interested.
- Yes, I am interested, and I agree with the criticisms, so I recruit some fresh betas and get cracking on the ms. once again to address the problems she's noted. In June 2005 it goes back out, substantially revised.

Now you're caught up, here's the rest of the story:

In September 2005, the editor wrote to say that in her view the ms. had taken "a strong step forward" and so she'd passed it on to a co-worker whose judgment she respects. I held my breath, though part of me already knew that if she felt the need to seek a second opinion, probably the book was still iffy. A base hit, maybe, but not a home run.

And lo, it came to pass. In April 2006, my meek inquiry as to the book's status was greeted with the editor's regrets but... she just wasn't feeling it, and the other editor agreed. Something was missing, at least in terms of what their publishing house looks for in a novel. The action/mystery aspect was good, and she even admitted that another editor/publisher might like the book just fine as-is, but she was hoping for a stronger underlying theme and a more clearly delineated personal journey for the heroine. So, she said, as the ms. stood she was going to have to pass. Still, she made a generous offer to discuss with me what other editors or publishers might like the book if I wanted to go that route.

At that point something in me curled up in a small unhappy ball and died, but I told myself I needed time to think about the new set of criticisms. Had I perhaps misunderstood the editor's first set of suggestions and taken the book in a different direction from what she had intended? Possibly, but it was too late to change that now. More importantly, was what the editor wanted out of the book the same as what I wanted to put into the book? Or could this just be a simple case of a book/editor mismatch and I should just try a different publisher?

It took me quite a while to work through all this, but a few weeks later I've finally been able to achieve the necessary emotional distance to decide what to do next -- or at least, I hope I have. I was afraid, for a while, that I might try so hard to tailor the book to this particular editor's tastes that I'd end up overworking it and we'd both be unhappy with the result. But I was also afraid of telling myself too blithely that her criticisms were just a matter of opinion, and trying to sell the book to another publisher -- perhaps even succeeding -- while knowing deep down that the story could have been better.

Anyway, after much thought, I've come to the conclusion that another rewrite is in order, perhaps even more extensive than the last one. I do think the editor is on to something, in an objective sense: I do feel that the things she felt were missing from the story are things that I meant to put in there, but just didn't make clear enough. The changes I have in mind should, I hope, bring those aspects more to the forefront. I'm a little afraid of muddling up the plot in the process -- it's already complicated enough, perhaps even a little too complicated -- but now that I'm aware of the problem I won't feel happy until I've done the best I can to fix it.

So that's where things stand at this point. Thanks to everybody who's read the manuscript, helped to edit it, or just expressed an interest in its welfare over the years. I appreciate your continuing faith in my abilities as a writer, and hope to prove worthy of it one day. But right now...

I still have work to do.

[identity profile] pgoodman13.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Best of luck with this one, Rivkah. You know I've always thought that this one deserves a home and an audience. I have faith that you'll find both in the not-too-distant future.

And for me to say "I have faith" should indicate to you how far my life's come in recent months. :)

And now, I go back to editing the blasted errata for the Star Trek RPG Player's Guide in hopes of having it done before the sun goes nova.

[identity profile] yahtzee63.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Hang in there and definitely keep working with it. You've put a lot of time and thought and energy into your universe, and if you think her comments have merit, then you already see where to go next. I believe in you!

[identity profile] kagiri.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
I have to say I'd buy any book written by you, but I also understand your need to make your masterpiece the best it can be. Don't lose faith!

[identity profile] jenosopher.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I think it's amazing that you've got a finished work. I've never been able to do more than start. I hope you'll add me to your list of beta-readers for the next rewrite? I'm an editor, although I haven't worked my way into the fiction field...yet.

I'm especially interested because you and I seem to have very similar tastes and because we're both from Brethren backgrounds.

[identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com 2006-06-01 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know that! (About the Brethren background, I mean.) I'd love to hear more about that some time.

And thanks for the offer. I'm not sure yet if I'll be using betas for this round... but I'll definitely keep you in mind if I do.

[identity profile] risti.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad to hear that you did contact the editor again (I remember you debating on whether or not you should) and good for you on not giving up on this dream.

If, at any point in this next rewrite, you need the opinion of someone who hasn't read the book at all yet, feel free to let me know.
kerravonsen: An open book: "All books are either dreams or swords." (books)

[personal profile] kerravonsen 2006-05-31 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
If, at any point in this next rewrite, you need the opinion of someone who hasn't read the book at all yet, feel free to let me know.

Me too.

[identity profile] drmm.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
Me three.
kerravonsen: An open book: "All books are either dreams or swords." (books)

[personal profile] kerravonsen 2006-05-31 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
(sends encouraging vibes in your direction)

[identity profile] tybalt-quin.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
Good luck with the re-write. I think that all of us have every faith in your writing abilities and are looking forward to seeing Knife in the shops.

[identity profile] bluemoon02.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
I really admire your dedication to this story. So many would let an ego bruising deter them, but it's great that you're managing to carry on. I hope so much that you do get published, because I think you clearly deserve it.

[identity profile] dolorous-ett.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
Good for you for unwinding yourself from that ball. I've been in a similar situation with translations, and it is really, really hard. I can only imagine how difficult it must be with an original work.

The very best of luck to you!

*Ramandu becomes visibly younger.*

(Anonymous) 2006-05-31 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I <3 you because you make me smile about good things.

When this book is published, I'm buying at least seven copies.

*waits patiently*

the Fish
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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/shing_/ 2006-05-31 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. I had no idea about the history of Knife. Glad you haven't given up.

Have you heard of http://www.lulu.com ? I just learned about the site a few weeks ago. It's a self-publishing site.

[identity profile] sunsethill.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for updating those of us who love your writing. I'm glad that you are going for the re-write as difficult as that will be. One of the things I love about your "hobby" writing is that even though you are writing mainly for fun and practice, you still manage to leave us with something to think about and a POINT. I can well believe that you would want your published work to display this quality to an even greater degree.

[identity profile] kalquessa.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for sharing this, and good on you for keeping at it all this time. Will look forward to seeing Knife in print one of these days!

[identity profile] pharnabazus.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you're going ahead!

[identity profile] --kali--.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, you have put so much work in this. Best of luck to you (and remember JK Rowling was rejected by something like 40 publishers)

[identity profile] rose-in-shadow.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs* I'm glad you're not giving up. You already know how much I *heart* Knife and I'll be excited to see when it finally has a home.

Out of curiosity, have you tried finding an agent?

[identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com 2006-06-01 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I have, and not that long ago either, but conventional wisdom is that it's actually harder to find an agent than it is to find a publisher, and that you're better off to get a contract for your manuscript first and then start phoning agents to have them negotiate on your behalf. So that's the route I've decided to take.

[identity profile] aithopa.livejournal.com 2006-06-01 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, it sounds awful to have been trapped between "should I really change my vision for an editor?" and "but what if I'm dismissing just criticism?". I think it's great that you're still persisting with this novel. Best of luck!

[identity profile] muggle-prof.livejournal.com 2006-06-01 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Went to see Diane Thomas, author of recent novel "The Year the Music Changed" last night. Just wanted you to know she said the version that was published was the eighth version of the manuscript, and the publisher is one she almost didn't submit it to. (She said she had an extra copy after sending off copies to 24 other publishers and figured, "hey, it only costs $1.37 to mail it out.") The book has been nominated for several awards.
So take heart. And best of luck.

[identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com 2006-06-01 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks -- I appreciate the encouragement!

Please don't give up

[identity profile] dorothyruskin.livejournal.com 2006-06-01 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd buy any book you care to write. :-)

[identity profile] malabud.livejournal.com 2006-06-07 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I am sure all your hard work and perseverance will pay off. I mean, with all these people pulling for you, how can it not? *g*